Comments on: A Debate Up In Smoke http://www.perfectlyturbulent.com/a-debate-up-in-smoke/ Because its better to be riding the waves than fighting them Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:37:19 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Joshua Gedo http://www.perfectlyturbulent.com/a-debate-up-in-smoke/comment-page-1/#comment-1826 Joshua Gedo Sat, 15 May 2010 18:17:07 +0000 http://www.perfectlyturbulent.com/?p=446#comment-1826 Alcohol is the drug of choice for most people, and it is a drug. Ofttimes named the “grease” of fellowship, an informed person is more quick to land in situations where it is served up. An educated individual is likewise more cognizant of the pressures to succeed in our civilization, and the resulting desire to disentangle from that pressure. Most people have no problem with this drug, but the problem people leave behind a awful trail of wreckage. Alcohol is the drug of choice for most people, and it is a drug. Ofttimes named the “grease” of fellowship, an informed person is more quick to land in situations where it is served up. An educated individual is likewise more cognizant of the pressures to succeed in our civilization, and the resulting desire to disentangle from that pressure. Most people have no problem with this drug, but the problem people leave behind a awful trail of wreckage.

]]> By: mcecchin http://www.perfectlyturbulent.com/a-debate-up-in-smoke/comment-page-1/#comment-1438 mcecchin Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:48:41 +0000 http://www.perfectlyturbulent.com/?p=446#comment-1438 Steve, That first link was pretty general, with no stats so I was still weary, but your article from msnbc was great. Very detailed and it seems like a very thorough look at the issue. My main point of contention when you quoted the study originally was age of death and the variables they might use, as I perceived your view of "early death" meant 50-60. After that second article I certainly stand corrected. I also didn't take into account the rate of cancer in non-smokers which certainly levels the field, and those extra 7 years for non-smokers are, like you said, in many instances spent with some aspect of medical care. It appears my crusade against smoking just lost its health care angle, but thankfully there's plenty more ammunition. Good luck with quitting and thanks again for sharing those articles. Mike Steve,

That first link was pretty general, with no stats so I was still weary, but your article from msnbc was great. Very detailed and it seems like a very thorough look at the issue.

My main point of contention when you quoted the study originally was age of death and the variables they might use, as I perceived your view of “early death” meant 50-60. After that second article I certainly stand corrected. I also didn’t take into account the rate of cancer in non-smokers which certainly levels the field, and those extra 7 years for non-smokers are, like you said, in many instances spent with some aspect of medical care.

It appears my crusade against smoking just lost its health care angle, but thankfully there’s plenty more ammunition. Good luck with quitting and thanks again for sharing those articles.

Mike

]]> By: Steve-O http://www.perfectlyturbulent.com/a-debate-up-in-smoke/comment-page-1/#comment-1437 Steve-O Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:18:28 +0000 http://www.perfectlyturbulent.com/?p=446#comment-1437 Sorry - forgot to add this one. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22995659/#storyContinued S Sorry – forgot to add this one.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22995659/#storyContinued

S

]]> By: Steve-O http://www.perfectlyturbulent.com/a-debate-up-in-smoke/comment-page-1/#comment-1436 Steve-O Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:14:52 +0000 http://www.perfectlyturbulent.com/?p=446#comment-1436 Mike, Absurd as it may be, I thought it was nuts too. But when I thought about it, I couldn't deny it. http://www.buckeyeinstitute.org/blog/2008/02/05/do-smokers-cost-taxpayers-more/ Just offering perspective, but for God's sake don't smoke! (I'm still quitting). S Mike,

Absurd as it may be, I thought it was nuts too. But when I thought about it, I couldn’t deny it.

http://www.buckeyeinstitute.org/blog/2008/02/05/do-smokers-cost-taxpayers-more/

Just offering perspective, but for God’s sake don’t smoke! (I’m still quitting).

S

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